Pedro Pascal’s Avengers future as Mr. Fantastic afterThe Fantastic Four: First Stepsgets cleared up ahead of hisMarvel Cinematic Universedebut. The Multiverse Saga is nearing its end, as Phase 6 will be kicking off this summer with the arrival ofThe Fantastic Four: First Steps.
However, Marvel’s First Family will be back sooner, since Pascal, Vanessa Kirby, Ebon Moss-Bachrach, and Joseph Quinn will return in 2026’sAvengers: Doomday. When it comes to Reed Richards' role in the movie, a quote fromThe Fantastic Four: First Stepsdirector Matt Shakman recently went viral, making it sound like Pascal’s character would bethe new leader of the Avengersnext year.
In an exclusive interview withScreenRant’sown Ash Crossan forThe Fantastic Four: First Steps, director Matt Shakman discussed the recent quote related to Reed leading Earth’s Mightiest Heroes inAvengers: Doomsday. After the initial story that ran, Shakman got a chance to set the record straight about what he had actually said, sharing the following:
Matt Shakman: So I actually didn’t say that… The internet ran with it. So the question asked me about casting Pedro and about, and I was talking about Reed Richards in the comic books and how Reed Richards is sometimes the cerebral scientist. Sometimes he’s off leading the Avengers, sometimes he’s a father, a husband, whatever.
So I was talking about him in the comic books and about how there are so many different aspects to that character. Somebody who is believably the smartest man in the universe, somebody who will jump into the action and be believable as a leader.
And also somebody who has that emotional connection to their family. And that’s why I was drawn to Pedro, such an incredible actor. So what he does in Avengers Doomsday is not for me to talk about, talk to Joe or Anthony. I was just talking about reading the comic books and how I was figuring out who could play him the best.
Avengers: Doomsdaywon’t be the only Phase 6 film to featureThe Fantastic Four: First Stepscastmembers, as they are also set to reprise their respective roles inAvengers: Secret Wars. Production onAvengers: Secret Warshas yet to begin, though, asAvengers: Doomsdayis currently being filmed.
What Matt Shakman’s Fantastic Four Comments Mean For The MCU
WhileThe Fantastic Four: First Stepsconnects toAvengers: Doomsday, no matter how they get to Earth-616,it’d be shocking for someone like Reed to already become the leader of whatever version of the Avengers comes together in the 2026 film. From an MCU standpoint, it makes more sense that one of the heroes - like Sam Wilson’s Captain America - be the one to lead the charge.
Having Mr. Fantastic lead a group that he doesn’t even know would also feel extremely out of place,which is why Shakman’s clarification is extremely helpful in terms of shedding light on what he was actually meaning with his initial Avengers comments. However, that doesn’t mean that the Fantastic Four won’t have a crucial role to play inAvengers: Doomsday.
Our Take On Matt Shakman’s Fantastic Four Comments
It’s useful that Matt Shakman has been able to address what he actually meant regarding Pascal’s Mr. Fantasticas the MCU gets closer toAvengers: Doomsday. As exciting as it would be to see Pascal’s hero as the Avengers leader, that hasn’t appeared to be the direction the MCU has been going inThe Multiverse Sagathus far.
But, even if it’s not in Phase 6,the events ofThe Fantastic Four: First Stepsand the nextAvengersmovies could begin to plant the seed for Reed’s larger leadership role in the MCU in future phases. Until then, fans can catch Pascal’s MCU debut this summer, starting withThe Fantastic Four: First Steps.
The Fantastic Four: First Stepsopens in theaters on Friday, July 25.
The Fantastic Four: First Steps
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The Fantastic 4: First Steps features Marvel’s First Family navigating their dual roles as superheroes and family members in a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world. They defend Earth from a formidable space god, Galactus, and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer, testing their familial bonds and heroic resolve.
